I was joking about Zeno omnipotent thing. ignore omnipotent statements and ignore writer interpretations as so many verses would stalemate doing so. Either way, The Presence is omnipotent and his true form is completely identical to the Overvoid, so The Presence wins this one since he is THE god. @userthatisme: in my opinion theyre worse and that's saying something cause I'll admit thanos is wanked they actually believe monitors solo everything absolutely everything. It is not always clear how the Abrahamic God fits in to this scheme - for exampl… Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. People are just tending to make him look like a fodder which he isn't and I get it that overvoid is stronger than the presence but the presence isn't stronger than Toaa so imo Toaa wins against overvoid too. And yet you constantly do this with Morrison's personal opinions. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. You can say that about every marvel fan ever. EmptyHand 4 mo 13 d . Prescense creates multiverses on it. Nothing like this has ever been stated in DC. The Scan above just shows Eonymous to basically interpret us and yes he is above the Overvoid. @userthatisme: The entire "paper" is on the desk of some random kid. 1; 2; Next. @userthatisme: A random Eonymous has overvoid on his desk and its threated like worthless trash. It is the canvas on which all creation then exists in. No. 10 months ago. It's a conscious unmanifest void. While Yahweh / Carey's Presence is the conscious, manifested, physical aspect of God within its own Dream. But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy, Honestly with the omnipotent statements, then verses would stalemate. Funny we ignore that, but use his much needed number to justify High-1B for our DC profiles. They're an infinite white canvas (which is the blank page of a comic book) the collective DC "story" (aka the omniverse and all DC properties together) is an ink splotch on said canvas. If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. Many claim poplular lore is that its the Presence. They are outsiders watching reality for entertainment which is the only reason they dont destroy it entirely iirc. @xearesay: bruh matteis wrote that story pralaya is his character when asked he stayed she was apart of the presence he has written multiple story's about the presence and has always viewed him at the top again face palm his opinion matters right there, @y3kthunder: U mad Overvoid solos the Presence Overvoid was terrified of CAS who is the strongest character in all of fiction CAS can pull you into the comic book and beat you up so stop wanking. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. It certainly looks like they are above them. I just dont recall if DC was ever clear on who is the end all-be all in DC. Next Last. How am I wanking dc? 0 Kudos Antvasima. The-One-Above-All is a character from Marvel Comics and the God of that universe. Games Movies TV Video. The Presence/The Source is God (in universe), all powerful and controls everything. Please click here if you are willing to help out. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. Your assumptions are not evidence. Which is to monitor the universes. No, I was saying that all the things I said that are a part of the Presence are also a part of the writer. Go. Save changes Preview Cancel. Follow 1820. Overvoid is, and never will be above The Presence. He rarely helps the heroes or interferes with anything, except he brought back the Earth once when it was destroyed. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. Only Speedy Gonzales can outrun me, THE FLASH. If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. Are you typing in a hurry? The Overvoid is an aspect of The Presence. It's a conscious unmanifest void. The Presence is everywhere but also nowhere at once so no matter how many times Lucifer tries to escape The Presence, just realize The Presence is God and is omnipresent which means he is everywhere, everything, and nowhere at once. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. Also marvel is more wanked compared to DC wank(normally superman or darksied). The point of battles is to have discussion, and you can’t have a discussion with infinitely powerful characters. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. Overvoid is merely a concept where the presence created everything and didn't interfere. Definitely not a vs topic. Sorry for the confusion. It's a conscious unmanifest void. Nobody is big brain without saying a trash character is omnipotent like Zeno. The "Overmonitor" is not a name for the Overvoid. Trying to become the fastest man alive.. My question is simple: do any of these 3 have any usable on-panel Rumble feats at all? Snyder is using Kirby's version. Unless I'm mistaken, didn't Mandrakk or the Overvoid view DC reality as a microbe in comparison to it? 11 comments. Why/How would they fight. Bruh xea no offense but uh you do realize by saying pralaya is an aspect of the overvoid that you admit the overvoid is apart of the presence when asked matteis was very clear pralaya was apart of the presence and considering he made her I'ma take his word face palm, He’s a troll isn’t he? The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. I don’t see any tbh but give a good list of the ones you think can or you think are capable of. Explore Wikis ... the Void was just part of the Presence? This is either a micheal Julius alt or my favourite troll. CatL18 . 40018621 7 mo 10 d . Hykuu. I see.. but you failed, CAS was already infinitely faster than you before you were even born. Posted by 1 month ago. I saw that when I searched them up. Entitäten wie The Voice und The Source sind nur Aspekte von The Presence. @xearesay prove you don’t troll. But The writer acting through the Presence is what it is. Overvoid initially appeared as a copy of Intergalactic#8 within Intergalactic#8, discovered by the character Ignoble Steed. Prayala is God's Unconsciousness and When she says absorb she literally says shes just the deep sleep which even god falls into. The Primal Monitor is what creation exists within. | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom FANDOM. NOOOOO! monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the writer tiering system Replies: 362; Forum: Content Revision; Tier upgrade for The eonymous. Because if so, this is taking "stop hitting yourself" to a whole new level. To add to this I have an actual last image. Soloed by batman ? Kid spilling milk on it warps reality. time and time again I see better feats. While The presence is the hand and the pen. The Presence is The GOD. Powers and Stats. CAS CANT BE FASTER THAN THE FASTEST MA ALIVE!! At the end of the issue, it was revealed that Overvoid was also the narrator of Wanderlust, having gained sentience through its own presence within the text. Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. 01:28, February 19, 2019. The Writer (self-insert of Grant Morrison) is the "supreme being" that writes and governs the whole thing. The overvoid is the paper and the prescense is the writer. ill stop sending this stuff now I just wanna know why do YouTube commenters claim this stuff? zopzop. Wouldn’t that be an aspect of the Overvoid/paper? 2,441 447. Which is true as dematties thinks creation to be a dream and when god isn't dreaming that's pralaya. Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, also known as The Void, The Overmonitor and The Primal Monitor, is the ultimate source of all creation of the DC Comics Franchise. Example: The Presence, the One Above All. Name: God, The One Above All, The Creator, The Oversoul, The Void Beyond All Voids, The Source, The Overvoid, Monitor-Mind, The Presence, among many others Origin: DC Comics. People genuinely think thanos with ig is ”omnipotent” and the fact they don’t know anything or just ignore feats for dc characters claiming a weak feat can beat x from dc from y of marvel. I said larfleeze can beat hotu thanos lol, @userthatisme: overvoid>>>>>>>mandrakk and cas >>>>>>>toaa/Presence< fiction. 40. I should know because vlad from accounting Is omnipotent. The Presence is a powerful being originating from the DC universe. Mandrakk Presence isnt even in top 5 charecters like writer,leviathan,utu,enlil,gilgamesh,overvoid exists,you watch to much youtube or something like that. Tier: High 1-A. She is the aspect of the non existence of the presence or his Unconsciousness taken form. @userthatisme: youtube is a funny place for debating, I like seeing what people say to me. Even without the statement, the verses essentially can be stalemated like DC and SCP can stalemate completely. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The Overvoid Lurk is a narrative entity appearing both as and within a text. hide. Some said The Presence written by Neil Gaiman is supreme GOD of DC universe. Why would we agree on something that there's no proof of? Name: The Presence, the Source (In another belief system), Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, God Origin: DC Comics. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. The Presence vs Over Monitor # The Presence I wanted to know your opinion on this. In the history of the DC Universe, the Presence is the fictionalized counterpart to the Godof the Abrahamic (but mostly Christian) religions. T2 easily. I'm not sure I'm reading it correctly or you writing wrong darkest knight made sphere of gods shudder with his might,sphere of gods contains heaven,hell,skyland,apokalips new genesis etc Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it.The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. Lol. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. DeMattes' Presence / Kirby's Source / Morrison's Overvoid are more or less the same thing. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. But nice reply to him, you really showed him, @userthatisme: alonis hates monitors or there fans he is poking fun, I didt read it I only read him saying Overvoid soloing presence. Both have different interpretation about DC comics. Darkseid is by far the weakest of the four. Others said Overvoid written by Grant Morrison is supreme. XSUPREMEXSKILLZ. But in the real world, it is the comic book writer. @userthatisme: unfortunately not he is no troll he is dead serious in his beliefs same with the rest of the monitor fan base. Thread starter Hykuu; Start date Nov 8, 2019; Tags dc comics monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the source Status Not open for further replies. Not sure if the storyline is canon but i didnt see anthing saying it was not. Sounds false. You kinda dumb ngl. But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy. The same goes with The Writer. share. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. The overvoid is a canvas of all DC creations. It has never been suggested that the Overvoid is superior to anything on it. The Presence is one of the supreme and essential creative forces of the DC Multiverse. Tyrannus 5 mo 3 d . Is the dc writer really apart of the presence? I know this battle has been done before plenty of times, but whait I want to know is how can the OV be stronger than the Presence when it didn't even The religious cosmology of the multiverse is complex, with many pantheons of gods co-existing alongside each other. Also with the multiverse, if you like can you put the most powerful you have researched? And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. From the verse he is considered the god above all others. AnwaysOT: Epic, I just learnt of new characters. Presence is arguably at best equal to the Overvoid and arguably below it. xearesay. But I vaguely remember the Presence that he was shaped by external forces. Empty Hand vs The Presence # Empty Hand When the moniter species did exist the preasence was debatable for being in the true overvoid via scaling above most of the species, but now that there dead and only overmoniter/moniter exists this means we cannot classify the preasence as beyond godsphere overvoid … That's how I have always seen it. Now if we are to take the Overvoid seriously, I'd say he's the paper to be drawn on if anything. Powers and Stats. So The Presence, The Source, The Overmonitor/Overvoid are all the same being (supposedly). The Presence and The Overmonitor might be the same as well. God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles. The One-Above-All vs Over Monitor # Over Monitor over monitor wins because the presence said that someone created him. @userthatisme: You are wanking DC, I am not wanking Marvel. @y3kthunder: Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. It is the void outside every creation. I believe there are rules against making straight-up omnipotence vs omnipotence rumbles, yes? Loading editor. Pralaya is the Overvoid, according to you, and is named synonymously with the Source, who is a like being to the Presence, and is also called an aspect of the Presence by the author. If a writer has an idea for any creative stories they come up with, it is done through the Presence. The character debuted in More Fun Comics #52 (February 1940), and was created by Jerry Siegel and Bernard Baily Publication history. All versions of supreme entities and abstracts like The Overvoid are apart of The Presence. They are the unseen "presence" with ultimate power over every story, bound behind their source wall (the fourth wall). Don’t do it. Basically my interpretation is that. save. So,it is very difficult to compare. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Discussions Monitor-Mind the Overvoid is the void of absolute nothingness that encompasses creation, standing outside of its deepest reaches, beyond all dual concepts and the stories which form around them, being the crumbling point in which all things cease to be, and the background of all stories and ideas within DC Comics itself. Do you even know what you are saying? The fact that you can't see that speaks to your own ignorance and closemindedness. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. I only see you wanking marvel and you never show feats for dc ever(or statements). The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. In Neil Gaimans cosmology. And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. Snyder is not using Grant's version of the Source Wall, or anything else in the hierarchy. Lucifer and Michael are second to The Presence. I wasted my time with a vs battle fan calc guy. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. The presence more or less is the version he appears to human, good example being Yahweh. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. vs Overvoid Cosmic Armor Superman Mandrakk Who wins? More History; Done. Overvoid 10/10 this fodder and his fodder verse. I have just learned now that the Presence isn’t truly omnipotent, although still far above Beyonder and Darkseid. 67% Upvoted. In Morrrisons cosmology Honestly though if you can’t give a list, it’s fine but I also wanna take that as a “DC is the most powerful verse in fiction” type thing. But, I will vote for Tema2. It includes elements from multiple religions, mythologies, and modern concepts such as the Endless. Who wins? Above both is the race called the Eonymous. The Presence, The Overvoid, and The Writer No, not asking for a Rumbles between these 3 entities. So is The Source, The Oversoul, etc. Always felt like the presence was the writer himself manifesting into a character in DC. But due to it being marvel, nobody cares. Aren’t they the readers? Aren't they pretty much the same being? Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. It is the Primal Monitor. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. Lucifer may have escaped creation itself and gone somewhere in the Overvoid, but note that The Overvoid and The Presence are actually related and are the same. Still below that of the Dc writer. It's just a huge unknowable thing. Wikis. report. Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. Pralaya is not an aspect of the Overvoid. would you be able to list some characters able to solo DC? I think scp 3812 only loses to maybe lucifer but definitely the Presence, @userthatisme: given some time I'm sure I could give you a list that I think could potentially do the task. Jetzt ist Cosmic Armor Superman im Grunde genommen von seiner besten Seite ein Oversversal (oder eine niedrigere Metaverse-Ebene), das für sich allein ist. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. Close. Overvoid > The Presence. All of the evidence points to Presence-Source-Overvoid/Pralaya being a divine trinity. Tier: High 1-A, likely 0. It's a conscious unmanifest void. Monitors and the like are a cool concept for the purpose they serve. >Glad we agree that Overvoid is the comic page and Lucifer and The Presence are creations of Nix Uotan, who is the Authors avatar. Also if you had any analytical skills, you would know that I was just trolling and mocking xearfesay and Mj. Based on that, I have to assume that the Beyonder and One Above All wins. 1. Over Monitor Over monitor IS the overvoid, and the writers also established that the presence should be above the overvoid/void, tho he exists within the overvoid, he shouldn't be limited to it @tyr why ping me. You guys need to stop taking a writers personal opinion to the highest degree. The Presence is a fictional character in comic books published by DC Comics. Please click here if you are willing to help out. Considering they are still on paper. Also zeno is not omnipotent by any means I doubt he could handle any of marvel or dcs God tiers. And these are unquestionably the 3 most powerful entities (based on presentation) that DC ever published. 1 of 2 Go to page. It is the blank page a writer use to create miracles. Nur der Monitor-Geist und Overvoid überschreiten die Präsenz in ihren Existenzebenen. As a result, even beings such as The Presence, The Source and Monitor-Mind The Overvoid are aspects of it. 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